station broadcast the 'new' report on the record of achievement between the President of 'mass future' MP Saad Hariri, a UN investigation after the assassination of his father and was the attitudes launched by Hariri to the President Najib Mikati and Prince Alwaleed bin Talal and the Maj. Gen. Assef Shawkat, and Maj. Gen. Rustom Ghazali, who described Hariri Balhkir and major editing newspapers 'Ambassador' and 'home' Talal Salman, Charles Ayoub, who described Hariri Bahr and gambler, and the restoration of the political realities that preceded the assassination of Rafik Hariri.
In the bar the following investigation:
Investigator: We collected information to indicate a telephone conversation between Sayyed, your father, where he says the father of Mr. (after Hariri's resignation from the government) 'As I came out of the government what you think Bkmutai on my resignation' any time Hariri said 'thou God, this beloved country', Word on the beautiful Mr. Hariri, saying, 'was good, emotionally and know that I know it can not form a government with the current Chairman of mediation itself'. Do you own this register?
Hariri: We will not know him.
Investigator: Is your father Vatg days specifically for this talk, which was beautiful with Mr.?
Hariri: I do not.
Detective: Do you tell anyone else about this conversation?
Hariri: No, but I think someone told me that Mr. Jameel's parents and threatened day and told him that he must leave the country otherwise would be killed and I think this happened in 99.
Detective: Why did your father and ask the opinion of Mr. Jamil about his resignation?
Hariri: Jamil al-Sayyed, because in 'Egypte' Syrians, and he was always in touch with them.
Hariri's resignation from the government
Hariri: Bashar al-Assad said the parents' form of any government that wants to and I think that Bashar Al-Assad, as usual, is a man of very explicit words Bifl Shi Shi and another, in fact, Hosni Mubarak was involved in the matter because my father format with Mubarak the whole thing.
Registration II
Hariri: "But in the end they were playing did not want my father to return Prime Minister.
Detective: Sorry, when you say 'did not want' to mean?
Hariri: I mean, Emile Lahoud, Jamil al-Sayyed, Rustom Ghazaleh, and Bashar al-Assad.
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Investigator: What is the nature of the relationship that connects your father was the late Mr. Talal Salman?
Hariri: relationship blackmail .. Purely .. In other words if you do not retting money .. Everything blow the destinations ..Display all the available I have against you.
Investigator: everything is available against your father?
Hariri: all that would hurt .. Talal, in the end was very close to the beautiful Mr. .. Was his friend .. At the same time, Talal and I will tell you how things were working .. Syrians when they want to help my father was one Rustam come and say: Rafiq ..Talal need to help you .. So you have to pay him some money because his newspaper bankrupt .. Unfortunately, and despite the fact that my father did not want to do it, especially that the Ambassador was one of the harshest since the newspapers in 1992 with that he did not have any problems with Talal .. But Talal was the kind of money if you paid him to write about you well .. Just as Charles Ayoub .. But Charles Ayoub was the worst .. Charles Ayoub salacious.
Talal has written in a newspaper could write something bad, but he has other writers that they can reflect the views of the other so it is not like the one who named Charles Ayoub ..Charles Ayoub, the gambler .. In my view, he sold his conscience fully .. Talal Salman different .. Was conducted by blackmail, or rather was using his newspaper to get the money and he had journalists such as Ibraaheem secretary ..Secretary Abraham was beautiful men, Mr. .. Ibrahim al-Amin, who now heads the al-Akhbar newspaper men of Mr. .. Mr. Ibrahim had a secretary at the Ambassador .. Nicolas Nassif in the day .. And Tariq Trchici in the Middle East .. And Charles Ayoub in the home.
Investigator: In a previous interview with the investigation said that the Syrians staged a campaign against Hariri before February 14, 2005 .. When you say the Syrians do you mean?
Hariri: Rustom Ghazaleh .. Asef Shawkat .. And tools of Bjamil Mr. Emile Lahoud ..
They have organized a media campaign and described my father a traitor and that he was behind the 1559 which caused its issuance and that, as you know an enemy of Syria ..Suleiman Franjieh is very close to the Syrian regime, described the project of Rafik Hariri suspect or the like .. And Talal Arslan, described Berkil Quraytam .. They were very cruel and if it is considered not offering him what day of the media campaign that will see the same issue.
Investigator: in Lebanon or in other countries?
Hariri: Lebanon .. Or rather in Lebanon and Syria in particular and the Baath October and I remember that was deemed very remarkable for attention .. Because as you know, they usually write threats .. When you write something about you Baath, it means as a threat .. I remember I called my father and asked him if he had read what was written in the newspaper Baath because I support the idea that the concessions and asked him why not give?
Investigator: Why give up?
Hariri: Do you remember .. Meeting, which I told you about between Ghazali and Charles Ayoub? Were negotiating about the elections in Beirut and a list of my father I told him a waiver, I always Btaatnazl .. Why do not you give up this time ..He will not relinquish .. I am sixty years .. I told him that they will Biivak .. He replied, let them do it .. Their grave digging their hands.
Investigator: Is it your position is also the subject of the extension of Lahoud?
Hariri: The extension of Lahoud was different.
Detective: Why is it different also, as long as some kind of waiver?
Hariri: The reason is that I knew what the country where they intend to do .. Before that I did not know .. I encourage him to confront in the past, but after that I knew what I knew became a call on him to make concessions.
Detective: Thanks for the clarification .. So why think that the campaign launched against your father in that period in particular?
Hariri: I think the zero hour had arrived for the assassination of my father.
Detective: When the teacher came to meet your father?
Hariri: came in January, I think .. In January or February I do not remember .. Maybe at the end of January or beginning of February .. I think that my father said to him .. And you have the tapes .. Said to him .. You are asking me .. I ask you to tell Bashar al-Assad that I could not be against Syria or the like, but you can not you continue to act this way and Walid .. And Walid replied that you walk on the land of dangerous or something like that ..
Detective: I had said something positive in the past, and Walid al-Moallem.
Saad Hariri: "If I listened to remarks made by Walid al-Moallem now .. It has become worse than Bashar al-Assad himself.
Coroner: you mean after the assassination of Hariri's father.
Hariri: I think that Walid Moallem possible to play a positive role at the time but it was not enough it seems as we think there was a lot of reports and the ball, and now if you ask me how it happened and what happened, I think that Assef Shawkat and Maher al-Assad have a big role in it.
Investigator: In what?
Hariri: in the process of killing and preparing to push Bashar in the direction to take this decision .. Because he died when Hafez al-Assad went with my father to offer condolences to the mother of Bashar, and I went to offer condolences with Mustafa Tallas, who was minister of defense .. As we enter Asif was leaving Tlass looked to my father and said to him: (God forbid Syria Halrjal) and he was right.
Investigator: Did you know that your father was to travel to visit Syria on February 14?
Hariri: No, if he had intentions to visit Syria to be known .. I would have known of the Order or Abdul or through people I know.
Detective: If your father had the intention to make the trip and it was Sam or Abdul Sielman so.
Saad: Yes they were Sielman .. How he will go? On foot.
Investigator: No, but the intention was still the intention, had not been decided after that.
Hariri: In the fifteenth of February.
Investigator: Yes, non-decision. Just a map.
Hariri: I doubt it.
Detective: Did you know Bashar al-Assad personally.
Hariri: Yes, I met him two or three times, twice in a villa in Damascus .. In the third time we went for lunch .. I am a, Rami Makhlouf, and also on one occasion when he was King Abdullah in Damascus, Bashar al-escorted Prince Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah and Abdul-Aziz bin Fahd, Abdullah and one of my friends and I am full course dinner.
Detective: When was that?
Hariri: I think in 1999 or 2000 that was the beginning of the year 2000
Investigator: before the death of his father?
Hariri: after the assassination of his father. Concluded that (laughs) became president of the Republic no longer meet ordinary people and ordinary people like me. When I met him in the times that I mentioned was talking about everything, from Lebanon and the fact that he has no problem with my father, and I tell him that if there is any role can I play to bridge the gap between you and my father I would be very happy to do that, we had to meet a lengthy fact twice , every time we sat for two hours, he was talking a lot about everything about Walid Jumblatt, and my father, but he was not negative, but positive and then became Rami Makhlouf with him.
Investigator: Are you still in touch with Rami Makhlouf, since contact your condolences for the death of your father?
Hariri: Not at all, that was the last time it continued with one of the Syrians.
Hariri: There was talk that he will meet Foreign Minister Muallem (Copenhagen) I knew that after the assassination, Terje Roed-Larsen told me this, Terry had met my father and told me so.
I think he was in Damascus, came to visit my parents during the day Saturday, and said to my father will Baghtyalk
Felt something, and he told me that he said to my father: a companion, you have to be careful they will kill you, the next day was Terry will leave Lebanon, and called him my father and said to him: I have to see you, and have already met. And asked to what extent what I have said to me is my grandfather is already answered as well, that's what it felt like
At the time, Terry has met Bashar al-Assad, who spoke about the 1559 and its application, and when touched on the subject of Hariri saw the anger in his eyes, and Bashar was very upset, we can not talk to a companion, said to him: "I do not know the details, but that's what Terry Lee .
Registration II
I do not want to break Syria in Lebanon
Investigator: if your father won in the elections, what was the change, and any impact it would do to your father's presidency?
Hariri: Shell had won the presidency if two-thirds, he could turn against the President, if obtained, but this was not part of his plan, his plan was ... I mean he did not think one day he wants to break Syria in Lebanon, he always says that, the Innu 'I do not want to Break Syria of Lebanon', but I want to convince the Syrians that there is a better way for the establishment of relations between Syria and Lebanon.
Relationship Rafik Hariri Hezbollah
Investigator: with any political parties and the father was trying to build a coalition?
Hariri: the timely opening and my father's relationship with Walid Jumblatt, Shahwan, and open a dialogue with Hezbollah, I think at the time that Speaker Nabih Berri betrayed betrayal large no longer trust him did not return to work with him, and therefore open new channels with the Secretary General of Hezbollah Hassan Nasrallah .
Detective: Who was the messenger with Hassan Nasrallah?
Hariri: There was a person named Mustafa Nasser, Hussein Khalil, and there was also Sam Hassan, who was aware of the details of the meetings always, but to say that my father wanted (Hassan Nasrallah) was meeting includes Hassan Nasrallah, Rafik Hariri, Mustafa Nasser, Hussein Khalil, was Sam ( Hassan) waiting outside, and when they went out of the meeting was to say to my father Mustafa Nasser Quench all of the Order of the meeting.
Investigator: It is Mustafa Nasser?
Hariri: I think that Mustafa Nasser Hezbollah.
Hariri: My father was in good faith Nasrallah often felt he could work with him and to conclude an agreement with Hassan Nasrallah, and I think that Hassan Nasrallah, a man of his word, and this is what I do not know.
Investigator: How often it is the meeting between the two?
Hariri: I'm not sure but I think about every week or every 10 days.
Investigator: When did you get these meetings?
Hariri: six months before his assassination.
Saad Hariri: Hedda Iyad.
Hassan and Sam: What was responsible?! Was responsible for the security of the State Mattarh us they're banned.
Saad Hariri: I do not have a reasonable hope left for all of this information.
Investigator: It is very well known in intelligence circles. Now there are 9 pictures of him, can you take all the pictures, you may not be known to you, but we have 9 photos to him and can Tokdhuha.
Hassan and Sam: Can you take pictures of all the Hoyate?
Investigator: Yes, of course.
And Sam Hassan: identity security?
Lehman: We have a natural identity.
Hassan: with or without rank rank?
Detective: He invented something ..
(Everyone laughs)
Lehman: He was saying something (a friend) on 14 February.
Hassan: Let's not go back to history.
Lehman: No, no, we do not need to Monday.
Hassan: (OK)
Investigator: The problem is that we sent several times and told us just go to the hospital. Azhbo to school .. Just go here and there ... The situation was similar, but it does not.
Saad Hariri: learn something, when you go to the Director and the Director-read newspapers and know that Zuhair al-Siddiq ..
Hassan: he knew, he knew, Biarafoa and said, "I Barafo and said," I Barafo, but I said what Aja to Ande and take the testimony with Hedda Alzlami, but I said, I am Barafo, what he said what Barafo, but I said to him Msari million three hundred thousand, said, "I Barafo.
Saad Hariri: Mdionlo?
And Sam Hassan: Mdionlo, Zuhair Mdionlo, take out three million and seven hundred million Rdlo After Mao Alloa million three hundred thousand.
Saad Hariri: I mean Alzlami growth liar?
And Sam Hassan: Biarafo, Mdinloa Palmsari.
Saad Hariri: Biarafoa Shaw Innu officer?
And Sam Hassan: Biarafoa, Zuhair al-Siddiq Biarafoa personally, Mdinloa Palmsari.
Saad Hariri: let me Say you my work, I am director of the School of Baiji, 600 I have a father each and every one of Baiji, with a father with what I remember.
And Sam Hassan: It is Biarafoa Sheikh Saad, Biarafo.
Investigator: There are two issues, first to say it was really an officer and say to the Syrians, it was really an officer.
Lehman: What was his role on February 14?
And Sam Hassan: Do you have offered the Americans the picture? There I had a copy of the Military Academy in 1995 and not today but remains a picture of me when I graduated.
Lehman: But if you do not hear a credible this Sizarna 'Comikyin'.
Saad Hariri: If you send us a taste of what they accused gave him a visa at the Saudi Embassy.
Lehman: You sure that the compilation of information about benefits, but at the moment is useful.
Investigator: You ask a question not answered Pap Pap Pap Pap .. Useful to me is the one two three four.
Saad Hariri: I was director of the school you learn to know how much a father, not know about 500 to about 1000 a mother and father. Will remember that the father and son came to deliver high, you will not remember, impossible, today I know a person and two days later will not mention the person.
Lehman: We have to find a file that person ..
But from April or June, but is so no more.
Saad Hariri: Let me tell you something group are beginning to discover for Zuhair two months ago or a month, but not before.
And Sam Hassan: while leaving in April that he knew them and then went to the 'Marbella'.
Detective: June I do not think July.
And Sam Hassan: But even before that when he went to Syria since the beginning of April I thought I heard they learned.
Saad Hariri: finished it now and come to .. Could be conducting an interview or interviews with him, you need to about an hour or hour and a half.
Join the second Najib Mikati
Investigator: What was the nature of the relationship between father and Najib Mikati?
Hariri: normal, he was the minister did not idle with my father, Najib, but a seasoned politician, then of course, did not face my parents. You know, I made Najib (Mikati) head of government, and then tried to stab, and I do not like who stab in the back.
Investigator: What was the nature of the relationship between father and Waleed bin Talal.
Hariri: The relationship is very good that I do not know why everything has changed.
Hariri: My father did not understand why he was Alwaleed bin Talal, in doing so, we fear that the Saudi government is trying to send messages to my parents even on the day of the Saudi government issued a decision from the Royal Court, says that the positions of Alwaleed bin Talal, did not represent the official view of Saudi Arabia or Saudi politics, Prince Alwaleed, because he keeps on insulting my father.
Hariri: I think that Waleed bin Talal, wants to become President of the Government (Lebanon), and obtained the Lebanese citizenship, and did not understand why?.
Registration II (Chirac says the silky Warning)
Hariri: A month ago and a half or two months (the assassination of Hariri), we were afraid, but no one .. I mean he was always saying they would not dare, President Chirac called him the day before (assassinated) and said to him: 'I am very concerned for your safety, be careful, comrade'.
Investigator: Did this on-line encrypted.
Hariri: No, this happened on a normal phone, but I know that President Chirac told him this, I think he said that Terje Roed-Larsen had told French President Jacques Chirac thing knows how to despise my father-in security.
Investigator: I said, 'I think' Why do you think so?
Hariri: What do you mean?
Investigator: Mr. Terje Roed-Larsen ...
Hariri: I analyze that if U.S. President Chirac my father to tell him Entebbe, Valmallomp be coming from either the intelligence or (Terry) he was very close to the Gordin Monte, and he was a (Mont) consultations taking place between him (Larsen) and Bashar al-Assad is he had met Walid Muallem, or someone else.
Firas
Investigator: How were such funds are paid.
Hariri: mostly via Abu Tarek, I think so.
Investigator: How did your father pay the money?
Hariri: He was my father gives money to Abu Tariq, Abu Tariq was being paid the amount to Rustam.
Investigator: Where was your father's money to attend.
Hariri: From then looked, were required to attend Darwish has ten thousand or fifty strong or hundred thousand, and was doing it.
Investigator: If a regular basis how much was paid.
Hariri: Rustam?
Investigator: Yes.
Hariri: ninetieth, or one hundred thousand, as, in particular it was different between being in Beirut, and being in Anjar, when it is in Beirut were asked to thirty, and in Anjar was demanding sixty to ninety thousand, and sometimes it was despicable ask more than that, he would say I need that I help someone, and help me to do that, and we must do this and do this, you must fix erythema, which means the question of extortion, blackmail process is complete, but more than that they are sending their vehicles for repair in people who fit our vehicles. He used to say that sometimes need a garden roses, Fenrsl a person takes care of the garden. Mean full blackmail.
Hariri: when he was Ghazi Kanaan, in Beirut was Rustom Ghazaleh someone else, you do not scream, did not threaten, when he was Ghazi Kanaan tough with al-Hariri, was Rustom Ghazaleh come and say to him: Do not be afraid, we are all friends, was my father knows that this type from the distribution of roles, and it was my father give him assistance and give him the money.
Hariri: I met Rami Makhlouf, and we try as much as possible to improve the relationship between my father and Bashar. There was a person named Taha (played a role and was close to the Assad family in Syria and Bashar Assad) a person named Taha ... Taha is the brother of Prime Minister Najib Mikati, and I think he did not play a positive role, he could play a positive role much more, but he did not.
Investigator: Taha Mikati, Rami?
Hariri: Rami, I think everything you meet him and bring a message from my father to Bashar, the things are going well, it conveys a message and there have been positive, but you have to remember that when he became Bashar as president, no longer wants to meet me, and it became Rami Categories reached between me and Bashar and also between him and my father.
And tried my father's open relationship with Bashar, try this, but by persuading Bashar that we can do a lot together, but it is not all this corruption that is happening in Lebanon, and so on, at first things went well, but I think because of reports that was flying from the beautiful, Mr. Emile Lahoud and all lovers of the likes of Nasser Kandil and all those who hate my father as well as Hezbollah and Nabih Berri, who did not want the relationship to improve, and it was in their political interest not to converge Rafik Hariri and Bashar al-Assad, and this was also the interest of Assef Shawkat , because it was seen in the Hariri and strategic security threat to Syria, because my father when I used to go with him to Syria, the people waving to him in the street, and this should not happen in Syria, especially with the Sunni prime minister. This is such a threat to the Syrians, the presence of the Prime Minister of a powerful Sunni is not like at all.
I began to feel that the problem of Bashar al-Assad ... All you go to Syria did not see the pictures and said his father .. I felt that he had something against his or her parents ... As you may know that Bashar Al-Assad became president at the age of 39, when he became president he went to the first Arab summit as president of Syria, and gave the records of kings and presidents who sit on the office 15 years ago, and Astvzni because you're stupid! Less what you can do is do not give presidents a lecture at the National .
He wants to prove himself, but he did not do so positively, but on the contrary, the superstructure, and speaks of the logic: I know more than you.
Registration II: Hariri, security
Detective: Do you think there is one close to your father and that the possible leaking information to others, to the outside world, to people interested in actively father?
Hariri: from people very close?
Investigator: Yes.
Hariri: You know that our house was the train to some extent, a lot of journalists who enter and exit and there were people who know you know who are the Casimir Mansour, who was sitting for five or six hours, and then write reports for Jamil al-Sayyed, the people who come to the palace.
I think that people close to my father and who could Iserpoa information about him .. If I had one doubt, no doubt someone Knhad hanged, he was adviser to the parents of the media Fadl Shalak.
I have no doubt Hani Hammoud, or Abd al-(Arab) or Sam (Hassan) or Abu Tariq. Owmenhm on my life as my father did, and paid a price, paid by Abu Tariq, Sam has many enemies, learn in the vicinity of my parents, as well as Hani.
Hariri: Abdul course not, but now the mentality is different, you know there is no awareness of (security), which today is, I mean Abu Tariq was his relationship with most of the Syrians, Abdul was his relationship with Abbas Ibrahim, who was part of team security of Mr. Hariri, which shows hostility towards us .
(Ibrahim Abbas) on the contrary, but he knows how it works our team, and learn the story of Ali Hajj Ali Hajj?
Investigator: How can I be sure that they are loyal and you're in most of the time what I was in Saudi Arabia?
Hariri: Who are these people?
Investigator: Yes, and you know we are all humans and we have weaknesses, and us the ability to fall, how can that be sure?
Hariri: learn from the business by a person .. Is it necessary to record this talk
Cut off the registry.
Rustam is the third threatened on behalf of the seven
Hariri: Syrian side, you open an investigation immediately after the assassination of my father? Or attempted to uncover the facts of the killing of Hariri?
Or tried to assassinate Marwan Hamadeh? Nothing ... In fact on the issue of Marwan Hamadeh ... On behalf of the seven ... In one of the meetings my father was present, and on behalf of the seven, and ask .. I do not remember the details .. But Rustom Ghazaleh told the name of (seven) 'Do not worry on behalf of the (seven) will not do what we've done your Marwan Hamadeh. In the first three weeks after the assassination of my father were acting as if nothing had happened, or rather they were rude, for example, Bashar al-Assad has not even related.
Investigator: Can you explain to us the nature of the relationship between the father and the late Abdel-Halim Khaddam.
Hariri: My father did not like Faruq al-Shara, Farouk al-Shara was someone my father does not feel friendly towards him.Although the costs of treatment when he came from Damascus to the American University for the Cure, and my father was very tense and asked the doctors PRIVATE supervision on the process of treatment ... They were the best doctors, but Faruq al-Shara has always had political problems with my parents.Even in the days of Hafez al-Assad, and was then was not that my father is concerned, because Abdul-Halim Khaddam was then was responsible and not al-Shara.
Registration III: Asif butcher
Investigator: We said that your father did not meet with Maher al-Assad with his life, and what about Asif Shawkat?
Hariri: Assef Shawkat, I do not think he met my father in the past, but he (Asif) did not like my father never.
Most of the problems that you get with us was from Asef Shawkat. Asif and also a serial killer was a man, and I know that's not only what I heard in Lebanon, but also people who have dealt with him in intelligence, for example, learn what the Saudis Asif .. Say it like Mohammed bin Nayef ... Is a strong man, and they know all his actions ... Once you sit down with Pakistani intelligence, and that was after the assassination of my father and he told me that he had met Asif Shawkat Shawkat, who openly acts of torture that have been implemented.
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